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How strong would Grand Kai be ?
Topic Started: Aug 14 2013, 12:59 AM (3,049 Views)
UncleGoten
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I know he is a filler character, but if he is below both Goku and Pikkon where about would you place him ?
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UncleGoten
Aug 14 2013, 12:59 AM
I know he is a filler character, but if he is below both Goku and Pikkon where about would you place him ?
Hard to say he's one of those characters that are infamous teachers/elders/mystical beings/ that have much to offer but they never really look like they are capable of hand to hand combat, nor do we see them fight in the entire series. His Ki is probably up in the high ranges but when talking about his strength in battle he probably is around an ascended sayian.
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I was thinking he would be around Android 17 or Kamiccolo.
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UncleGoten
Aug 14 2013, 01:37 AM
I was thinking he would be around Android 17 or Kamiccolo.
I was about to say the androids from the Cell saga as well, all logical. I atleast believe he is stronger than Frieza but doesn't deserve the flattery of being stronger than Perfect Cell
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I have him at 10,000, I don't have him high because Supreme Kai is > Grand Kai

Grand Supreme Kai > South Supreme Kai > North Supreme Kai > West Supreme Kai > East Supreme Kai > Grand Kai > North = South = West
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Man. It's always those kind of guys who everyone else thinks he's so "powerful" when in reality you know they're weak as fudge.
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Based on his portrayal he seemed like he was actually stronger than Supreme Kai. Well Grand Kai came first so I guess they had no idea how weak Kaioshin would be when he was introduced.
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Really 10,000 ? that is really low.
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UncleGoten
Aug 14 2013, 12:03 PM
Really 10,000 ? that is really low.
why would he be stronger?

King Kai is around 4,500?
I will put Grand Kai at least 10x stronger so maybe 45,000 or 50,000 but I don't have Grand Kai no where in the millions

Only filler shows Grand Kai's speed which seems to be faster than Base Goku but Grand Kai also doesn't wanna train Goku & Pikkon because he knows they're retarded strong so he makes them what like 100 years so theres no telling his real power some people can put him above Base Goku but I just don't seem him that strong

If Frieza 100% is 120,000,000 then East Supreme Kai is 120,000,000,000

Grand Kai doesn't ever say he could defeat Frieza or anybody strong

King Kai states the Saiyans are stronger than him and Supreme Kai states all the Supreme Kais are 1000x stronger than Frieza (does that include Old Kai because he is a Supreme Kai of the past?)
Edited by FamousBueller, Aug 14 2013, 07:05 PM.
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well maybe 100 000 000 by toei logic or even more

IMO he is below 9000
Edited by Pointer, Aug 14 2013, 07:11 PM.

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He has to be stronger than that. He seemed to think with a couple hundred years of training he would be able to compete with Goku and Pikkon since he was so out of shape now. That implies at least at one point in his life he was close to Cell's level.
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Didn't Piccolo say East Kaioshin and him were dimensions apart because at the time he couldn't sense his ki and thought he was the Grand Kai? If so nothing contradicts Grand Kai being dimensions above Piccolo.
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Aug 14 2013, 11:20 PM
Didn't Piccolo say East Kaioshin and him were dimensions apart because at the time he couldn't sense his ki and thought he was the Grand Kai? If so nothing contradicts Grand Kai being dimensions above Piccolo.
Well Piccolo had never met Grand Kai in his life, he only said that because GK was the highest being he could think of. So I would not exactly call that an informed statement. I really find it hard to believe GK is above Piccolo. Maybe in his younger days he was though.
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Grand Kai had a repetition which is why Piccolo said he was leagues above him. Though this can't be disproven since Grand Kai was never mentioned again.
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King Kai thought he was stronger than Goku, he just has a lot of people fooled I guess. But if its true that he was just out of shape, we can only conclude he must have actually been above Supreme Kai at some point. Hard to believe but i'm not the one who wrote him being scared of Pui Pui.
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